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    March 4, 2014 | 29 Comments

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    Dr. Brown interviews Astrophysicist Jeff Zweerink and Philosopher and theologian Kenneth Richard Samples from Reasons to Believe about the four blood moons phenomenon. Is there prophetic significance to these moons, or is this just another example of Christian prophetic sensationalism. Listen live here 2-4 pm EST, and call into the show at (866) 348 7884 with your questions and comments.

     

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    29 Responses to “Four Blood Moons”

    1. jon
      March 4th, 2014 @ 7:26 pm

      No one is makeing a claim of a date, this is a watch… Given the historic timing of these tetrads a (watch) like a tornado watch is appropriate.
      RE the watch tower and Haggi’s excitement the biggest difference is that Haggi is not a replacement theologian. Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon’s and Jehovah’s Wittneses were and are all replacements. Haggi does see clearly as Blaise Pascal saw how God has worked wonder’s in Israel. I am not expecting advanced degree’s and science person’s to ever connect the dots in advance, it takes a Pascal to do this. The king of France did not ask just anyone with a science degree to give me clear proof of God, he asked the only one he could trust the answer to be the answer.
      Where today do any of us trust the advaced science and technology types- In global warming??
      In gay marriage?? evolution?? I am skeptical of the science guy, and for good reason.

    2. Jack Wasson
      March 4th, 2014 @ 7:26 pm

      Count me among the skeptical on the “hype” over Blood Moons. The Scriptures that Hagee et al are banking on are the verses in Joel and Acts which CLEARLY speak of the Day of the Lord, a.k.a. The Second Coming. Yet when all the smoke of the hype is cleared away, the “suggestion” is left that it is these Scriptures that are about to be fulfilled, let them join Camping and SAY, “I believe the Second Coming is going to happen” or, in the case of Hagee, the Rapture or the Tribulation. Instead, when I hear the “predictions” it’s “something IMPORTANT is going to happen!”

      Anyone who follows Israeli news that EVERYDAY something IMPORTANT is happening in Israel! That’s the beauty of this kind of nonsense. It is left ambiguous such that there is no need to apologize. Most certainly something important WILL happen in Israel this year, and next, and every month and year UNTIL the Messiah really does return.

      I really appreciate the balance of Dr. Brown and the Reasons to Believe guests. They perfectly word the skepticism I have for this current prediction. By the way, I suspect the believers who hop on these periodic sensational bandwagons do it because they’re just plain too lazy to read the Scriptures for themselves. There is a massive amount of prophetic content in all of the Scripture regarding Israel and the last days and the Second Coming. BUT it takes reading it again and again and again, line upon line, to get to the Truth. And that’s just too much work for many believers. Like Ahimaaz (2 Sam. 18:19) they want to run, but they don’t care whether they have a message.

    3. jon
      March 4th, 2014 @ 8:31 pm

      Again i reiterate that this is a watch, and it deserves that classification.

      What tetrad in history has ever shown up in one region of the world for all four moons? Jeff highlighted that only one moon shows in Israel, however he did not talk about the significance of that particular moon, and timing of it. I can not blame him though it was never in a science book. Where is Pascal when you need him?

    4. Ray
      March 5th, 2014 @ 9:04 am

      I’m wondering if ever in history that four moons like this ever fell on 4 Jewish holidays within a year or so.

      So it’s on Passover and what was the other one?
      Was it Tabernacles?

      Maybe I should take it as a sign that sins are forgiven, so commune.

    5. jon
      March 5th, 2014 @ 10:24 am

      The specifics behind it can be researched with remarkable coincidences. Jeff really did not know much about this event, he was only giving the science skepticism. He should spend some time looking at the tetrad history.

    6. Robert Sparks
      March 5th, 2014 @ 9:57 pm

      Why is it that the other times these blood moons happened it happened a year or so after the supposed event it was bringing attention to? What kind of sign is that? At best this is a sign of something that will happen a year before the blood moons. Well it is less than a year till it happens and nothing happened. We are being duped again. There is no historic precedence connecting the blood moons with significant events in Hebrew history. Didn’t anyone notice the blood moons didn’t line up with past events? There is no guarantee that the moons will even be red. They could be dark gray, red, orange or yellow and there is no way to know until they come. Nothing to see here folks. If you Biblically want to impress me lets see the sun darken and the moon turn to blood. Since the sun has to be behind the earth and shinning in order to turn the moon red that doesn’t happen during blood moons. For the sun to darken and the moon to turn to blood it would require a miracle and would be a true sign.

    7. Josh
      March 6th, 2014 @ 9:46 am

      Eclipses and blood moons are fulfillment of Joel 2:30 are they not? It just says these things will happen before “the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” Just like rainbows are a sign of God’s promise not to flood the whole Earth again. So whenever we see an eclipse or blood moon I think we should be reminded of his promises rather than try to predict future events based on these signs.

    8. Ray
      March 6th, 2014 @ 5:38 pm

      I was trying to imagine blood moons and what it might be like to see them.

      What if for example a blood red moon appeared right at Easter, and then one right at the Day of Atonement, or maybe on the day that Jesus was circumcised or something like that, and then next Easter, another one….

      Suppose these things were connected somehow to the blood of Christ and atonement of sin, on some exact days?

      I would think that would get some people attention, enough to say, “I wonder what’s going on?” ….Shouldn’t I suppose God knew this would happen this way, way back in the beginning when he made everything by Jesus Christ?”?

      I guess we will see what happens.

    9. jon
      March 6th, 2014 @ 6:40 pm

      To Mr. Sparks- We are being duped again? This event is so rare how many times have you been duped? In the last 522 years there has been three events. Were you duped in 1948 when Israel popped into existance after being nearly extinguished? Or did you get duped again in 1967 after Israel took control of old Jurusalem after nearly 2000 years of being scattered? I was too young to have been duped for either, but I can imagine after the Spanish inquisition in 1492 you wised up some.

    10. Lisa
      March 6th, 2014 @ 11:11 pm

      Dr. Brown – I sincerely hope you will consider interviewing Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries. He is the one who originally discovered the patterns in the tetrads and their connection to prophetic events in Israel. He has never been a date-setter and makes a compelling case for why these events may be something to watch. I feel your guests mischaracterized what Biltz has been saying for many years now and seemed ill-informed regarding what many believe about these events. It seems as if Mr. Hagee hijacked this information and sensationalized it. It’s unfortunate you based your information on his writings rather than going to Biltz. Signs are meant to be a warning to those who are watching – a sign that a bridge is out will come long before one reaches the actual bridge. The tetrads may be signs in the heavens to be alert. The whole world will NOT know/understand many of the signs of the times that precede His coming.

    11. jon
      March 8th, 2014 @ 2:52 pm

      I ask this as a question-

      I feel so strongly of where things are in prophecy right now, why do the counter missionaries not pick up on that if this “messiah” is who you say that he is if he is not returned by let’s say 2021 then your side is clearly wrong.

      That is a powerful position, and one that no rational thinking person would corner themselves into. However, this is actually where we truly are, and the best arguement out there could be to pin our whole stake on it. It is a vulnerable position, but one that would really take some faith to argue. Can we start staking this position? I think we can!

    12. jon
      March 8th, 2014 @ 2:57 pm

      In the 1600′s it was a wild position to hold that Israel would be restored. Who with any standing would have argued that? In yet you just had a guest on (Wilkerson) who gave examples of that position and were inprisoned on that very premise. Might I add were imprisoned by the king – King James!

      Why doesn’t Shmuley corner you with this arguement? If Yeshua is real he needs to present himself soon. How would you argue against that?

    13. jon
      March 9th, 2014 @ 1:40 pm

      R. Eleazar Chisma said, The laws concerning the sacrifices of birds and the purification of women are ordinances of the moment; astronomy and geometry are the after-courses of wisdom.

      Blaise Pascal knew that if he could take a geometric line (a true line.) He could base on it’s wisdom the very foundations of G_d. With the blood moon’s it means what it means. We do not assign meaning to it. If we look at astronomy can we not see the wisdom of G_d? We can be skeptical of the blood moon’s, however we know that wisdom is in the design of the universe.

    14. jon
      March 9th, 2014 @ 2:18 pm

      One last post on this blood moon’s.

      The people who are watching this with G_d’s prophetic time do this not as Millerites in the 1800′s with much prophecy still left, but as Watcher’s of G_d’s prophetic time clock Israel. Could the sun and the moon be parts to the clock?
      Israel is the greatest fulfillment of prophecy in the last 2000 years! I stand with the greatest fulfillment since the Messiah, and since the flood. Call me crazy, or too excited I will be both!

    15. Van
      March 10th, 2014 @ 11:46 am

      Religions began when our hunter gatherer ancestors witnessed solar eclipses. It panicked them. However there was always one person who knew the event was temporary and advised the rest of the clan that with a little magic and some magic words he or she could make the sun come back. That person was the first priest, first leader who gained power through sophistry. Today religious leaders use the exact same kind of trickery to gain power over gullible believers and fleece them of their money. It’s a solar eclipse people and science can explain the event without trying to scare you to death. Wake up and take a sniff of reality.

    16. jon
      March 10th, 2014 @ 2:49 pm

      In yet Van, you give so much credit to the Myan’s.

      So Van has G_d spoken to you yet?

    17. Bo
      March 10th, 2014 @ 2:52 pm

      Van,

      You wrote:
      “Religions began when our hunter gatherer ancestors witnessed solar eclipses.”

      Now where is the proof of this statement? Nowhere. Your statement is an assertion without proof or even the possibility proof. Pulling things out of your magic hat to put a good face on your religion of naturalism is the real problem here. And now we know why you think that all religion is hocus pocus…because yours is. The only sophistry I see is in your statements…you believe in something and then invent stories to prove your faith.

    18. Sheila
      March 10th, 2014 @ 5:27 pm

      Dr. Eli, founder of “Jewish Studies for Christians” posted some thoughts and a video about the Blood Moons theory on his website.

      http://jewishstudies.eteacherbiblical.com/blood-moon-nonsense/

      If Mr. Hagee talked over his findings with Orthodox rabbi’s why aren’t they raising their voices with dire warnings?

      Two of the blood moons heralded “good” things, like when he tied it into the U.N. voting on establishing the State of Israel. “Just wanted to warn you–something really good’s about to happen!” The other was when they won the Six Day War. “Heads up, guys, you’re about to clobber your enemies!” “Thought I’d let you know.” :)

    19. Van
      March 11th, 2014 @ 12:18 am

      “Now where is the proof of this statement?”

      > This scene is recorded on the walls of caves.

      Nowhere. Your statement is an assertion without proof or even the possibility proof.

      > That’s funny coming from someone who believes the kinds of things you do. For example you believe in angels without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in demons without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in heaven without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in hell without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in God without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in Satan without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe in Jesus without proof or even the possibility proof. You believe the Noah’s ark story without proof or even the possibility proof.
      Should I go on?

    20. Ray
      March 11th, 2014 @ 7:23 am

      Should we suppose that Matt 24:6,7 is written so we would not be looking for signs of the end times?

      Yet, I have always heard these verses talked about as if we should be looking for such things as signs of the end times.

    21. Bo
      March 11th, 2014 @ 9:52 am

      Van,

      A few pictures on the walls of caves are not proof of your assertion. There are plenty of historical documents that indicate that Noah and the flood are true. Obviously you are in denial about Jesus since the vast majority of scholars think that He is a historical figure. And you will refuse to take yourself off of the pedestal of divinity that you have erected for yourself until you die…unless you open your heart to truth.

    22. Bo
      March 11th, 2014 @ 12:09 pm

      Van,

      So let me get this straight:

      According to Van, science has found cave paintings that spell out implicitly (how a few stick drawings can do this, we are not told) that religion began when a few ancient individuals realized that eclipses happened at certain intervals. These very insightful individuals used this knowledge to wow the commoners and thus became the priests of the new religion and rulers of the culture.

      And according to Van, today’s commoners, most of which do not understand fully how modern individuals called scientists have realized that evolution and a big bang caused everything to exist, should now bow to the said scientists as the enlightened priests of our culture and the new religion called naturalism.

      And Van does not wish any of us to believe plain language (esp. Hebrew and Greek) in much more modern history about real people that existed and that tells us exactly in detail how our religion actually did come about.

      Do Van’s cave paintings (actually the interpretations of them by the modern priests of his religion) really trump plain written accounts? Is conjecture about “prehistoric” art better than detailed explanations from history? Do Van’s priests really know how to interpret the flaking scratchings on cave walls when they cannot read and understand plain script? Can his priests, that know a little more about eclipses and planetary motions than their supposed prehistoric counterparts, really be taken seriously when they think that their minds came from mindless matter? Should those minds be trusted?

      And if they are correct, what does it matter…we are just part of a giant bunch of swirling objects made of much smaller swirling objects that have no goal or purpose. There is no reason to discuss or to think about such things as our origins or religion or even the mindless, goalless universe itself…and such a universe could never produce beings, that have life and minds and goals, to have this discussion.

      “I do not think there is a demonstrative proof (like Euclid) of Christianity, nor of the existence of matter, nor of the good will and honesty of my best and oldest friends. I think all three are (except perhaps the second) far more probable than the alternatives. The case for Christianity in general is well given by Chesterton…As to why God doesn’t make it demonstratively clear; are we sure that He is even interested in the kind of Theism which would be a compelled logical assent to a conclusive argument? Are we interested in it in personal matters? I demand from my friend trust in my good faith which is certain without demonstrative proof. It wouldn’t be confidence at all if he waited for rigorous proof. Hang it all, the very fairy-tales embody the truth. Othello believed in Desdemona’s innocence when it was proved: but that was too late. Lear believed in Cordelia’s love when it was proved: but that was too late. ‘His praise is lost who stays till all commend.’ The magnanimity, the generosity which will trust on a reasonable probability, is required of us. But supposing one believed and was wrong after all? Why, then you would have paid the universe a compliment it doesn’t deserve. Your error would even so be more interesting and important than the reality. And yet how could that be? How could an idiotic universe have produced creatures whose mere dreams are so much stronger, better, subtler than itself?”
      ― C.S. Lewis

    23. Jennifer
      March 17th, 2014 @ 12:03 pm

      I agree with you Lisa completely. Pastor Mark Biltz is my pastor and a very humble gracious person. He has never set any dates at all nor sensationalized his information. I am disappointed that people are taking advantage of this information and over dramatizing it. Pastor Mark is a amazing pastor and I have learned more from his teachings in 4 years than all the years I have been in church. I don’t think we should just throw out this information because so many other people have predicted things and they have not come to pass. The prophets predicted future events that they never saw happen and some still have yet to come to pass. You may want to speak with Pastor Mark and get to know his heart and intentions before just ignoring what he feels God has shown him.

    24. Lisa
      March 18th, 2014 @ 2:38 pm

      Amen, Jennifer! I have been listening to Mark’s teachings for many years now, and not just on the blood moons. He is a Holy Spirit-gifted teacher and I, too, have learned so much from him. His heart for the Lord and enthusiasm for the Word of God are what gives the blood moon teaching such credibility in my eyes. It seems the enemy is actively trying to cloud this teaching now that these events are about to take place. I believe anyone who wants to truly understand the teaching on the blood moons ought to at least give Pastor Biltz the opportunity to present his take on it. Bless you, sister!

    25. jon
      March 27th, 2014 @ 4:08 pm

      Thank you for having Mark Biltz on your program.

    26. Jabez H.
      March 31st, 2014 @ 12:07 am

      Hagee indeed sensationalized others’ findings to distort their intention, for, he is a pretrib rapture advocate. He has stated over and over again that ‘there is nothing left to happen’ which prevents Jesus’ imminent return. There are many details which happened, with many more to happen in the end sign banner nation of Israel (Is. 11:11-12, Acts 3:21, and 2 Thesl. 2:2 for general rebuttal reference to the pretrib ideation of Hagee). Jon has given most excellent advice here. Jesus stated there will be ‘signs in the heavens’. Let it be so. Disappointing central guest on this matter.

    27. Reggie
      April 10th, 2014 @ 7:45 am

      This was a very interesting program. I happen to like Hagee and I’ve listened to his teaching on the Four Blood Moons. I would have liked to have heard a debate WITH John Hagee on this program instead of having two people taking he opposite view. There was no one to present Hagee’s arguments regarding this and information came only from one side.

    28. jon
      April 10th, 2014 @ 9:28 am

      By the way Reggie Hagee is teaching from what he learned from Mark Biltz. Hagee’s point of view is what you hear from this other side, I have only heard Hagee miss several key points on his DVD. The key source of this is what I believe to be some understanding that Biltz discovered from the Holy spirit of understanding.

    29. Janet Rosen
      April 18th, 2014 @ 5:35 pm

      I personally think that John Hagee is talking out of the top of his head.. I consider he is teaching a false doctrine.. Maybe he’s looking to be noticed… he sure can play the Sax,. and should stick to what he knows..

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