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    24 Responses to “Reflections on 9/11 and the Power of Prayer and Fasting”

    1. Steve Bailey
      September 11th, 2012 @ 2:46 pm

      Hi Dr. Brown,

      I am one of those that has a bad connection with my phone. RE: Fasting. My friends know I have a saying, “I have never seen a prayer of fasting and prayer not answered!” Of course, within GODs will. I have several friends call and challenge me to fast with them because of that saying. Well, I had a particular friend David that called me because the State took his son. he called me distraught asking me if what I really believe is true about fasting. I said ‘absolutely’! He asked me to join him in prayer and asked what are the perameters. He said he wanted me to join him to have his son returned. Fast for 2 weeks. That blew me away. I had never done a total fast for 2 weeks. The day we broke fast with prayer within 1 hour he called me rejoicing that the state called him and that his son would be released that day! I was shocked and praise GOD continually. GOD is great! Have a blessed day!

    2. Michael
      September 11th, 2012 @ 10:24 pm

      This comes from a highly intelligent fellow engineering friend of mine about 9/11. While to some it sounds outrageous, one has to wonder what really happened given the further reviewed evidence. While we may not truly understand the motivation, rather than quickly dismissing this, first consider the following:

      “Dear Friends, Family, and Acquaintances,

      Proverbs 10:14a–”Wise men store up knowledge . . . ”
      Proverbs 18:17–”The first to plead his case seems right, until another comes and examines him.”

      I suspect the Lord Jesus would have commended the Samaritan in Luke 10 if he had warned “the man who fell into robbers’ hands” of the robbers’ plan and presence in order to have avoided robbery. Similarly, Christians, when the occasion presents itself, ought to inform their woefully ignorant neighbors of our government’s past and present acts of wickedness so that they may 1) avoid inasmuch as possible becoming a victim of their pagan leaders’ schemes and 2) pray according to knowledge for their unregenerate leaders.

      It’s impossible to love your neighbor as yourself if you are ignorant of the times in which you and your neighbor live. I realize you are busy. I am too. But I’m confident you can find the time to read and watch the material below. It is but a smidgen of the evidence that demonstrates the tragic events of 9/11/01 were U.S. government sponsored and that the official story is a sham.

      By the grace of God, I have earned both an engineering and theology degree with honors. I am no benighted wack-job with excess time and imagination on my hands. If you will, as I have done, take 30 to 40 hours to study the competing theories to account for 9/11/01, I am confident your conclusion will be mine. The awful events of 9/11/01 were facilitated by the illegitimate U.S.
      federal government.

      The following information is taken from the Scholars of 9/11 Truth website. This is an overview of the 9/11 research to date.
      ——————————————————-
      1. The impact of planes cannot have caused enough damage to bring the buildings down, since the buildings were designed to withstand them (as Frank DeMartini, the project manager, has observed), the planes alleged to have hit were similar to those they were designed to withstand, and the buildings continued to stand after those impacts with negligible effects.

      2. The melting point of steel at 2,800 degrees F is about 1,000 degrees higher than the maximum burning temperature of jet-fuel-based fires, which do not exceed 1,800 degrees under optimal conditions; but the NIST examined
      236 samples of steel and found that 233 had not been exposed to temperatures above 500 degrees F and the others not above 1200.

      3. Underwriters Laboratory certified the steel in the buildings up to 2,000 degrees F for three or four hours without any significant effects, where these fires burned neither long enough or hot enough-at an average temperature of about 500 degrees for about one hour in the South Tower and one and a half in the North-to weaken, much less melt.

      4. If the steel had melted or weakened, then the affected floors would have displayed completely different behavior, with some degree of asymmetrical sagging and tilting, which would have been gradual and slow, not the complete, abrupt, and total demolition that was observed. NIST cannot even explain the initiation of any “collapse” sequence.

      5. William Rodriguez, who was the senior custodian in the North Tower and the last man to leave the building, has reported massive explosions in the sub-basements that effected extensive destruction, including the demolition of a fifty-ton hydraulic press and the ripping of the skin off a fellow worker, where they filled with water that drained the sprinkler system.

      6. Rodriguez observed that the explosion occurred prior to reverberations from upper floors, a claim that has now been substantiated in a new study by Craig Furlong and Gordon Ross, “Seismic Proof: 9/11 Was an Inside Job,”
      demonstrating that these explosions actually took place as much as 14 and 17 seconds before the presumptive airplane impacts.

      7. Heavy-steel-construction buildings like the Twin Towers are not generally capable of “pancake collapse,” which normally occurs only with concrete structures of “lift slab” construction and could not occur in redundant welded-steel buildings, such as the towers, unless every supporting column were removed at the same time, floor by floor, as Charles Pegelow, a structural engineer, has observed.

      8. The demolition of the two towers in about 10 seconds apiece is very close to the speed of free fall objects with only air resistance, which Judy Wood, Ph.D., formerly a professor of mechanical engineering, has observed is an astounding result that would be impossible without extremely powerful sources of energy. If they were collapsing, they would have had to fall through their points of greatest resistance. Indeed, the towers are exploding from the top, not collapsing to the ground, where their floors do not move, a phenomenon Wood has likened to two gigantic trees turning to sawdust from the top down, which, like the pulverization of the buildings, the government’s account cannot possibly explain. There were no pancakes.

      9. WTC-7 came down in a classic controlled demolition at 5:20 P.M., after Larry Silverstein suggested the best thing to do might be to “pull it,”
      displaying all the characteristics of classic controlled demolitions: a complete, abrupt, and total collapse into its own footprint, where the floors are all falling at the same time, yielding a stack of pancakes about
      5 floors high.

      10. The hit point at the Pentagon was too small to accommodate a 100-ton airliner with a 125-foot wingspan and a tail that stands 44-feet above the ground; the debris was wrong for a Boeing 757: no wings, no fuselage, no seats, no bodies, no luggage, no tail! Not even the engines were recovered, which means that the official account is not true.

      11. The Pentagon’s own videotapes do not show a Boeing 757 hitting the building, as even Bill O’Reilly admitted when one was shown on “The O’Reilly Factor.” At 155 feet, the plane was more than twice as long as the 77-foot Pentagon is high and should have been present and easily visible; it was not, which means that the video evidence also contradicts the official account.

      12. The aerodynamics of flight would have made the official trajectory-flying at high speed barely above ground level-physically impossible, because a Boeing 757 flying over 500 mph could not have come closer than about 60 feet of the ground, which means that the official account is not even aerodynamically possible.

      13. Data from a flight recorder provided to Pilots for 9/11 Truth by the National Transportation Safety Board corresponds to a plane with a different approach and altitude, which would have precluded its hitting lampposts or even the building itself, which means that, if this data corresponds to a Boeing 757, it would have flown over the Pentagon rather than hit it.

      14. If Flight 93 had come down as advertised, there should have been a debris field about the size of a city block, but the debris is distributed over an area of about eight square miles, which would be explainable if the plane had been shot down in the air but not if it had crashed, as required by the government’s official scenario.

      15. The alleged hijackers were not competent to fly the planes and their names are not on any original, authenticated passenger manifest. Several have turned up alive and well and living in the Middle East. The government has not even produced their tickets as evidence that they were even aboard the aircraft they are alleged to have hijacked. Did Osama call from a cave in Afghanistan and charge them to his MasterCard?

      16. President Bush recently acknowledged that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. The Senate Intelligence Committee has reported that Saddam was not in cahoots with Al Qaeda. And the FBI has acknowledged that it has “no hard evidence” to tie Osama to 9/11. If Saddam did not do it and Osama did not do it, then who is responsible for the death of 3,000 citizens that day?

      We believe that it is the highest form of respect to those who died on 9/11 and their survivors to establish how and why they died, which our own government manifestly has not done. With the American media under the thumb of a corrupt administration, we cannot count on the press to perform its investigative function. But we can do our best to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about 9/11.”

    3. David Roberts
      September 12th, 2012 @ 2:01 am

      @Everyone reading this,

      if you want to hear about God moving and changing lives, listen to this show! The power of prayer and fasting is great! It’s like our secret weapon against the enemy, except it’s not secret to him, which is why he tries to stop us praying and fasting, because he doesn’t want us making inroads into his kingdom, taking territory back to God our father. If all the Believers prayed and fasted at the same time for one day, the world would be changed in the most profound ways! :)

    4. Bo
      September 12th, 2012 @ 10:14 am

      David Roberts,

      Yom Kippur is coming up. What if all believers prayed and fasted on that Biblical Holy day as the Torah commands?

      Shalom

    5. Michael
      September 12th, 2012 @ 5:05 pm

      Regarding September 11, 2001, this comes from an intelligent fellow engineering friend of mine I went to college with. Although this might seem outrageous at first to believe this could ever happen, consider the evidence presented and decide for yourself before turning a blind eye and dismissing it. He says:

      “Dear Friends, Family, and Acquaintances,

      Proverbs 10:14a–”Wise men store up knowledge . . . ”
      Proverbs 18:17–”The first to plead his case seems right, until another comes and examines him.”

      I suspect the Lord Jesus would have commended the Samaritan in Luke 10 if he had warned “the man who fell into robbers’ hands” of the robbers’ plan and presence in order to have avoided robbery. Similar
      ly, Christians, when the occasion presents itself, ought to inform their woefully ignorant neighbors of our government’s past and present acts of wickedness so that they may 1) avoid inasmuch as possible becoming a victim of their pagan leaders’ schemes and 2) pray according to knowledge for their unregenerate leaders.

      It’s impossible to love your neighbor as yourself if you are ignorant of the times in which you and your neighbor live. I realize you are busy. I am too. But I’m confident you can find the time to read and watch the material below. It is but a smidgen of the evidence that demonstrates the tragic events of 9/11/01 were U.S. government sponsored and that the official story is a sham.

      By the grace of God, I have earned both an engineering and theology degree with honors. I am no benighted wack-job with excess time and imagination on my hands. If you will, as I have done, take 30 to 40 hours to study the competing theories to account for 9/11/01, I am confident your conclusion will be mine. The awful events of 9/11/01 were facilitated by the illegitimate U.S.
      federal government.

      The following information is taken from the Scholars of 9/11 Truth website. This is an overview of the 9/11 research to date.
      ——————————————————-
      1. The impact of planes cannot have caused enough damage to bring the buildings down, since the buildings were designed to withstand them (as Frank DeMartini, the project manager, has observed), the planes alleged to have hit were similar to those they were designed to withstand, and the buildings continued to stand after those impacts with negligible effects.

      2. The melting point of steel at 2,800 degrees F is about 1,000 degrees higher than the maximum burning temperature of jet-fuel-based fires, which do not exceed 1,800 degrees under optimal conditions; but the NIST examined
      236 samples of steel and found that 233 had not been exposed to temperatures above 500 degrees F and the others not above 1200.

      3. Underwriters Laboratory certified the steel in the buildings up to 2,000 degrees F for three or four hours without any significant effects, where these fires burned neither long enough or hot enough-at an average temperature of about 500 degrees for about one hour in the South Tower and one and a half in the North-to weaken, much less melt.

      4. If the steel had melted or weakened, then the affected floors would have displayed completely different behavior, with some degree of asymmetrical sagging and tilting, which would have been gradual and slow, not the complete, abrupt, and total demolition that was observed. NIST cannot even explain the initiation of any “collapse” sequence.

      5. William Rodriguez, who was the senior custodian in the North Tower and the last man to leave the building, has reported massive explosions in the sub-basements that effected extensive destruction, including the demolition of a fifty-ton hydraulic press and the ripping of the skin off a fellow worker, where they filled with water that drained the sprinkler system.

      6. Rodriguez observed that the explosion occurred prior to reverberations from upper floors, a claim that has now been substantiated in a new study by Craig Furlong and Gordon Ross, “Seismic Proof: 9/11 Was an Inside Job,”
      demonstrating that these explosions actually took place as much as 14 and 17 seconds before the presumptive airplane impacts.

      7. Heavy-steel-construction buildings like the Twin Towers are not generally capable of “pancake collapse,” which normally occurs only with concrete structures of “lift slab” construction and could not occur in redundant welded-steel buildings, such as the towers, unless every supporting column were removed at the same time, floor by floor, as Charles Pegelow, a structural engineer, has observed.

      8. The demolition of the two towers in about 10 seconds apiece is very close to the speed of free fall objects with only air resistance, which Judy Wood, Ph.D., formerly a professor of mechanical engineering, has observed is an astounding result that would be impossible without extremely powerful sources of energy. If they were collapsing, they would have had to fall through their points of greatest resistance. Indeed, the towers are exploding from the top, not collapsing to the ground, where their floors do not move, a phenomenon Wood has likened to two gigantic trees turning to sawdust from the top down, which, like the pulverization of the buildings, the government’s account cannot possibly explain. There were no pancakes.

      9. WTC-7 came down in a classic controlled demolition at 5:20 P.M., after Larry Silverstein suggested the best thing to do might be to “pull it,”
      displaying all the characteristics of classic controlled demolitions: a complete, abrupt, and total collapse into its own footprint, where the floors are all falling at the same time, yielding a stack of pancakes about
      5 floors high.

      10. The hit point at the Pentagon was too small to accommodate a 100-ton airliner with a 125-foot wingspan and a tail that stands 44-feet above the ground; the debris was wrong for a Boeing 757: no wings, no fuselage, no seats, no bodies, no luggage, no tail! Not even the engines were recovered, which means that the official account is not true.

      11. The Pentagon’s own videotapes do not show a Boeing 757 hitting the building, as even Bill O’Reilly admitted when one was shown on “The O’Reilly Factor.” At 155 feet, the plane was more than twice as long as the 77-foot Pentagon is high and should have been present and easily visible; it was not, which means that the video evidence also contradicts the official account.

      12. The aerodynamics of flight would have made the official trajectory-flying at high speed barely above ground level-physically impossible, because a Boeing 757 flying over 500 mph could not have come closer than about 60 feet of the ground, which means that the official account is not even aerodynamically possible.

      13. Data from a flight recorder provided to Pilots for 9/11 Truth by the National Transportation Safety Board corresponds to a plane with a different approach and altitude, which would have precluded its hitting lampposts or even the building itself, which means that, if this data corresponds to a Boeing 757, it would have flown over the Pentagon rather than hit it.

      14. If Flight 93 had come down as advertised, there should have been a debris field about the size of a city block, but the debris is distributed over an area of about eight square miles, which would be explainable if the plane had been shot down in the air but not if it had crashed, as required by the government’s official scenario.

      15. The alleged hijackers were not competent to fly the planes and their names are not on any original, authenticated passenger manifest. Several have turned up alive and well and living in the Middle East. The government has not even produced their tickets as evidence that they were even aboard the aircraft they are alleged to have hijacked. Did Osama call from a cave in Afghanistan and charge them to his MasterCard?

      16. President Bush recently acknowledged that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. The Senate Intelligence Committee has reported that Saddam was not in cahoots with Al Qaeda. And the FBI has acknowledged that it has “no hard evidence” to tie Osama to 9/11. If Saddam did not do it and Osama did not do it, then who is responsible for the death of 3,000 citizens that day?

      We believe that it is the highest form of respect to those who died on 9/11 and their survivors to establish how and why they died, which our own government manifestly has not done. With the American media under the thumb of a corrupt administration, we cannot count on the press to perform its investigative function. But we can do our best to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about 9/11.

      James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
      Founder
      Scholars for 9/11 Truth”

    6. Sheila
      September 12th, 2012 @ 6:02 pm

      Bo,

      Did you get this email from AskDrBrown Communications?

      “The ONE NEW Man – Jews and Gentiles TOGETHER
      National Highway of Prayer Conference Call 9/13″
      John 17:20-23 and Ephesians 2:11-18
      “One in Yeshua” and “That the World May Believe”

      Thursday 9.13.12 Evening/Afternoon
      In Advance of “10 DAYS of AWE” September 16-25

      http://nationalhighwayofprayer.blogspot.com/2012/08/913-jews-gentiles-together-national.html

    7. Bo
      September 13th, 2012 @ 10:03 am

      Sheila,

      I didn’t get the email. I think that we should obey YHWH’s commandment to keep His feasts on the right days in the right ways instead of inventing our own feasts and fasts. Maybe a call to fast today is pleasing in YHWH’s sight, but there is another side to the equation if we want to receive what we ask for and walk in the same power as the apostles.

      1 John 3
      22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

      Shalom

    8. Sheila
      September 13th, 2012 @ 11:26 am

      And Peace to you, Bo.

      I think any time we fast and pray is a good time. To have “all” the Church together and on the same wave length at the same time is a monumental undertaking but I have a feeling when the “Time of Jacob’s trouble” is upon us we’ll all be on our knees. Why wait?

      Elijah prayed and it didn’t rain for three years. Imagine what Billions of people praying at the same time could do?!

    9. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 13th, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

      Bo,

      Again, please be kind enough not to inject your favorite topic into yet another thread. Thanks!

    10. Bo
      September 13th, 2012 @ 8:39 pm

      Dr. Brown,

      Do not fret. It is the time of year for the discussion of the feast days. I think that you have brought up the topic for at least the last couple of years. Why do you not encourage all of us to fast and abstain from work on Yom Kippur? What would be the harm? Maybe YHWH would hear from heaven and heal us or our land or at least the animosity between Judah and Ephraim.

      Shalom

    11. David Roberts
      September 13th, 2012 @ 10:54 pm

      @Bo, you must listen to the exchange between Dr. Brown and caller about Jerusalem and the Israel of God. The arguments on both sides sounded so much like a debate about the Torah, it was surreal.

      You can hear it on the “Islam and 9/11 and The Fall Holy Days” show @31:21.

    12. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 14th, 2012 @ 12:30 am

      Bo, fear not. I’m not fretting. I’m simply reminding you of what is acceptable or not on this thread.

    13. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 14th, 2012 @ 12:31 am

      David,

      I’m not surprised you made this comment, and of course I was aware of the potential objection as I spoke. I deal with this at length in vol. 4 of my series, demonstrating the nature of Yeshua’s fulfilling Torah and Prophets.

    14. Mark Phillips
      September 14th, 2012 @ 1:33 am

      FOOD is the main thought with fasting of course ; but,in a sense,could one say that the narrow Way was one big fast in itself ? A a fast from FILTH : ; from materialism,hedonism,antagonism,idolatry ; from selfishness and greed.

      Would God be impressed with a Western believer who deprived himself of some meals,yet gorged himself on immoral Western entertainment,or held unforgiveness against someone in the congregation,or the neighborhood.

      There is not much in Holy Scripture on fasting. Could be something to produce a free article or a little book on Michael ?

      I just throw those two cents in ; note Isaiah 58 (especially vs6-7) ; also note that DENY word of Jesus in Luke 9:23-24.

      For more on the Isaiah 58,Galatians 2:10 wavelength,see ‘The Jubilee Gospel’ by Kim Tan.

      http://www.amazon.com/The-Jubilee-Gospel-Spirit-Church/dp/1860247032/ref=cm_cr-mr-img

    15. David Roberts
      September 14th, 2012 @ 3:08 am

      @Dr. Brown,

      With all due respect, and I do respect you a lot.
      I would say you can’t have it both ways.

      Either everything was fulfilled at the cross which the Torah and the prophets prophesied the Messiah will do, or everything wasn’t fulfilled at the cross.

      If everything was, then physical Jews and the land of Israel, and the Torah are completely irrelevant, or everything which the Torah and the prophets prophesied the Messiah will do has not been fulfilled yet, but will only be fulfilled some time in the future which will finish with heaven and earth passing away.

      Respectfully, I say you can’t have it both ways.

      I’m just talking about consistent hermeneutics. That’s all.

      Peace and blessings!

    16. David Roberts
      September 14th, 2012 @ 3:15 am

      @Dr. Brown,

      Just so you know, I said that in response to your comment just now, the debate with the caller on the show and what you wrote in pages 206-207 of volume four of answering Jewish objections.

      I hope you have a great week!

      !שבת שלום!

    17. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 14th, 2012 @ 9:59 am

      David,

      Surely you know that I have a clear, consistent answer for you, right? And surely you understand there are two “untils” in Matt 5:17ff., right?

      I’ll let you figure it out on your own (and that’s all time permits). :)

    18. Dan1el
      September 14th, 2012 @ 10:16 am

      David Roberts,
      As a quick note, there are at least two sides to salvation — even the “saved” can become the “lost” (and their beating is more severe than the beating of a normal lost person).
      How can that be?
      Salvation is not only “from Egypt”, but to “to enter and serve God in Canaan”.
      Because we are multi-dimensional beings, salvation must also be multi-dimensional — “all things” CAN be accomplished on one level without them being (or seeming/appearing to be) “accomplished” on one of the other levels!

    19. Bo
      September 14th, 2012 @ 11:19 am

      Dr. Brown,

      There are two “untils”, but there is a “therefore” that comes directly after them that specifies who will be great in Messiah’s kingdom. The “therefore” absolutely gives us the meaning of the two “untils.” They cannot mean that parts are fulfilled and thus are now non-commandments because the “therefore” would stipulate even the least commandment being still in effect. To those that ignore them and do not teach them, there is no greatness allowed in the future kingdom. Not my words, but His. Read em and weep.

      Matthew 5
      18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
      19 Whosoever THEREFORE shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

      Shalom

    20. Bo
      September 14th, 2012 @ 11:28 am

      Dr. Brown,

      So we have an example of the Hebrew occurrence of an idea being said twice in different ways for added effect. The two “untils” are saying the same thing. All will be fulfilled when heaven and earth pass away…not before. The second “until” is not modifying the first. The context of verse 19 demonstrates this.

      Shalom

    21. Bo
      September 14th, 2012 @ 11:30 am

      I’m done.

      Shabbat Shalom

    22. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 15th, 2012 @ 12:55 am

      Bo,

      You will not be taking over yet another thread with your agenda, and I expect you will honor our guidelines without the need for your comments to be moderated. But this is not your forum and it does not exist for you to push your views. You have had more than enough thread to post hundreds (or thousands) of comments already, and you’ll not do it again here. Thanks for complying.

    23. Bo
      September 15th, 2012 @ 9:57 pm

      Dr. Brown,

      You wrote:
      “Thanks for complying.”

      You’re welcome, but I was just replying to your post and not taking over anything. Is it not plausible, if not probable, that Matthew 5:18 is Hebrew parallelism?

      You wrote:
      “Surely you know that I have a clear, consistent answer for you, right? And surely you understand there are two “untils” in Matt 5:17ff., right?”

      I was only discussing, in short, the two “untils” that you referenced.

      I have always tried to stay withing the bounds of this website, by moving to appropriate threads and such. And I am thankful to you for your allowance of differing views being aired.

      Shalom

    24. Dr Michael L Brown
      September 16th, 2012 @ 12:28 am

      Shalom Bo, and all clear. David introduced the subject of Torah observance again, I gave a short response because that was not the topic of the show or the call, and with that I intended to end that discussion here. So, in any case, all clear in terms of what does and doesn’t belong on this thread, and your comments are always welcome when appropriate to the thread, whether I agree with you or not.

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